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three dialogues-第16章

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     。 What? You are then of opinion it is made up of {218}
unknown parts; that it hath unknown motions; and an unknown
shape?

     。 I do not believe that it hath any figure or motion at
all; being already convinced; that no sensible qualities can
exist in an unperceiving substance。

     。 But what notion is it possible to frame of an
instrument void of all sensible qualities; even extension itself?

     。 I do not pretend to have any notion of it。

     。 And what reason have you to think this unknown; this
inconceivable Somewhat doth exist? Is it that you imagine God
cannot act as well without it; or that you find by experience the
use of some such thing; when you form ideas in your own mind?

     。 You are always teasing me for reasons of my belief。
Pray what reasons have you not to believe it?

     。 It is to me a sufficient reason not to believe the
existence of anything; if I see no reason for believing it。 But;
not to insist on reasons for believing; you will not so much as
let me know  you would have me believe; since you say
you have no manner of notion of it。 After all; let me entreat you
to consider whether it be like a philosopher; or even like a man
of common sense; to pretend to believe you know not what ' and
you know not why。

     。 Hold; Philonous。 When I tell you Matter is an
; I do not mean altogether nothing。 It is true I know
not the particular kind of instrument; but; however; I have some
notion of ; which I apply to it。

     。 But what if it should prove that there is something;
even in the most general notion of ; as taken in a
distinct sense from ; which makes the use of it
inconsistent with the Divine attributes?

     。 Make that appear and I shall give up the point。

     。 What mean you by the general nature or notion of


     。 That which is common to all particular instruments
composeth the general notion。

     。 Is it not common to all instruments; that they are
applied to the doing those things only which cannot be performed
by the mere act of our wills? Thus; for instance; I never use an
instrument to move my finger; because it is done by a volition。
But I should use one if I were to remove part of a rock; or tear
up a tree by the roots。 Are you of the same mind? {219} Or; can
you shew any example where an instrument is made use of in
producing an effect  depending on the will of the
agent?

     。 I own I cannot。

     。 How therefore can you suppose that an All…perfect
Spirit; on whose Will all things have an absolute and immediate
dependence; should need an instrument in his operations; or; not
needing it; make use of it? Thus it seems to me that you are
obliged to own the use of a lifeless inactive instrument to be
incompatible with the infinite perfection of God; that is; by
your own confession; to give up the point。

     。 It doth not readily occur what I can answer you。

     。 But; methinks you should be ready to own the truth;
when it has been fairly proved to you。 We indeed; who are beings
of finite powers; are forced to make use of instruments。 And the
use of an instrument sheweth the agent to be limited by rules of
another's prescription; and that he cannot obtain his end but in
such a way; and by such conditions。 Whence it seems a clear
consequence; that the supreme unlimited agent useth no tool or
instrument at all。 The will of an Omnipotent Spirit is no sooner
exerted than executed; without the application of means; which;
if they are employed by inferior agents; it is not upon account
of any real efficacy that is in them; or necessary aptitude to
produce any effect; but merely in compliance with the laws of
nature; or those conditions prescribed to them by the First
Cause; who is Himself above all limitation or prescription
whatsoever。

     。 I will no longer maintain that Matter is an
instrument。 However; I would not be understood to give up its
existence neither; since; notwithstanding what hath been said; it
may still be an 。

     。 How many shapes is your Matter to take? Or; how
often must it be proved not to exist; before you are content to
part with it? But; to say no more of this (though by all the laws
of disputation I may justly blame you for so frequently changing
the signification of the principal term)  I would fain know
what you mean by affirming that matter is an occasion; having
already denied it to be a cause。 And; when you have shewn in what
sense you understand ; pray; in the next place; be
pleased to shew me what reason induceth you to believe there is
such an occasion of our ideas?

     。 As to the first point: by  I mean an
inactive {220} unthinking being; at the presence whereof God
excites ideas in our minds。

     。 And what may be the nature of that inactive
unthinking being?

     。 I know nothing of its nature。

     。 Proceed then to the second point; and assign some
reason why we should allow an existence to this inactive;
unthinking; unknown thing。

     。 When we see ideas produced in our minds; after an
orderly and constant manner; it is natural to think they have
some fixed and regular occasions; at the presence of which they
are excited。

     。 You acknowledge then God alone to be the cause of
our ideas; and that He causes them at the presence of those
occasions。

     。 That is my opinion。

     。 Those things which you say are present to God;
without doubt He perceives。

     。 Certainly; otherwise they could not be to Him an
occasion of acting。

     。 Not to insist now on your making sense of this
hypothesis; or answering all the puzzling questions and
difficulties it is liable to: I only ask whether the order and
regularity observable in the series of our ideas; or the course
of nature; be not sufficiently accounted for by the wisdom and
power of God; and whether it doth not derogate from those
attributes; to suppose He is influenced; directed; or put in
mind; when and what He is to act; by an unthinking substance?
And; lastly; whether; in case I granted all you contend for; it
would make anything to your purpose; it not being easy to
conceive how the external or absolute existence of an unthinking
substance; distinct from its being perceived; can be inferred
from my allowing that there are certain things perceived by the
mind of God; which are to Him the occasion of producing ideas in
us?

     。 I am perfectly at a loss what to think; this notion
of  seeming now altogether as groundless as the rest。

     。 Do you not at length perceive that in all these
different acceptations of ; you have been only supposing
you know not what; for no manner of reason; and to no kind of
use?

     。 I freely own myself less fond of my notions since
they have been so accurately examined。 But still; methinks; I
have some confused perception that there is such a thing as
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