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laches-第3章

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the utmost that we can for them。  And knowing you to have sons of your own;



we thought that you were most likely to have attended to their training and



improvement; and; if perchance you have not attended to them; we may remind



you that you ought to have done so; and would invite you to assist us in



the fulfilment of a common duty。  I will tell you; Nicias and Laches; even



at the risk of being tedious; how we came to think of this。  Melesias and I



live together; and our sons live with us; and now; as I was saying at



first; we are going to confess to you。  Both of us often talk to the lads



about the many noble deeds which our own fathers did in war and peacein



the management of the allies; and in the administration of the city; but



neither of us has any deeds of his own which he can show。  The truth is



that we are ashamed of this contrast being seen by them; and we blame our



fathers for letting us be spoiled in the days of our youth; while they were



occupied with the concerns of others; and we urge all this upon the lads;



pointing out to them that they will not grow up to honour if they are



rebellious and take no pains about themselves; but that if they take pains



they may; perhaps; become worthy of the names which they bear。  They; on



their part; promise to comply with our wishes; and our care is to discover



what studies or pursuits are likely to be most improving to them。  Some one



commended to us the art of fighting in armour; which he thought an



excellent accomplishment for a young man to learn; and he praised the man



whose exhibition you have seen; and told us to go and see him。  And we



determined that we would go; and get you to accompany us; and we were



intending at the same time; if you did not object; to take counsel with you



about the education of our sons。  That is the matter which we wanted to



talk over with you; and we hope that you will give us your opinion about



this art of fighting in armour; and about any other studies or pursuits



which may or may not be desirable for a young man to learn。  Please to say



whether you agree to our proposal。







NICIAS:  As far as I am concerned; Lysimachus and Melesias; I applaud your



purpose; and will gladly assist you; and I believe that you; Laches; will



be equally glad。







LACHES:  Certainly; Nicias; and I quite approve of the remark which



Lysimachus made about his own father and the father of Melesias; and which



is applicable; not only to them; but to us; and to every one who is



occupied with public affairs。  As he says; such persons are too apt to be



negligent and careless of their own children and their private concerns。 



There is much truth in that remark of yours; Lysimachus。  But why; instead



of consulting us; do you not consult our friend Socrates about the



education of the youths?  He is of the same deme with you; and is always



passing his time in places where the youth have any noble study or pursuit;



such as you are enquiring after。







LYSIMACHUS:  Why; Laches; has Socrates ever attended to matters of this



sort?







LACHES:  Certainly; Lysimachus。







NICIAS:  That I have the means of knowing as well as Laches; for quite



lately he supplied me with a teacher of music for my sons;Damon; the



disciple of Agathocles; who is a most accomplished man in every way; as



well as a musician; and a companion of inestimable value for young men at



their age。







LYSIMACHUS:  Those who have reached my time of life; Socrates and Nicias



and Laches; fall out of acquaintance with the young; because they are



generally detained at home by old age; but you; O son of Sophroniscus;



should let your fellow demesman have the benefit of any advice which you



are able to give。  Moreover I have a claim upon you as an old friend of



your father; for I and he were always companions and friends; and to the



hour of his death there never was a difference between us; and now it comes



back to me; at the mention of your name; that I have heard these lads



talking to one another at home; and often speaking of Socrates in terms of



the highest praise; but I have never thought to ask them whether the son of



Sophroniscus was the person whom they meant。  Tell me; my boys; whether



this is the Socrates of whom you have often spoken?







SON:  Certainly; father; this is he。







LYSIMACHUS:  I am delighted to hear; Socrates; that you maintain the name



of your father; who was a most excellent man; and I further rejoice at the



prospect of our family ties being renewed。







LACHES:  Indeed; Lysimachus; you ought not to give him up; for I can assure



you that I have seen him maintaining; not only his father's; but also his



country's name。  He was my companion in the retreat from Delium; and I can



tell you that if others had only been like him; the honour of our country



would have been upheld; and the great defeat would never have occurred。







LYSIMACHUS:  That is very high praise which is accorded to you; Socrates;



by faithful witnesses and for actions like those which they praise。  Let me



tell you the pleasure which I feel in hearing of your fame; and I hope that



you will regard me as one of your warmest friends。  You ought to have



visited us long ago; and made yourself at home with us; but now; from this



day forward; as we have at last found one another out; do as I saycome



and make acquaintance with me; and with these young men; that I may



continue your friend; as I was your father's。  I shall expect you to do so;



and shall venture at some future time to remind you of your duty。  But what



say you of the matter of which we were beginning to speakthe art of



fighting in armour?  Is that a practice in which the lads may be



advantageously instructed?







SOCRATES:  I will endeavour to advise you; Lysimachus; as far as I can in



this matter; and also in every way will comply with your wishes; but as I



am younger and not so experienced; I think that I ought certainly to hear



first what my elders have to say; and to learn of them; and if I have



anything to add; then I may venture to give my opinion to them as well as



to you。  Suppose; Nicias; that one or other of you begin。







NICIAS:  I have no objection; Socrates; and my opinion is that the



acquirement of this art is in many ways useful to young men。  It is an



advantage to them that among the favourite amusements of their leisure



hours they should have one which tends to improve and not to injure their



bodily health。  No gymnastics could be better or harder exercise; and this;



and the art of riding; are of all arts most befitting to a freeman; for



they only who are thus t
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