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  Pro。 What do you mean?



  Soc。 The sciences are a numerous class; and will be found to present



great differences。 But even admitting that; like the pleasures; they



are opposite as well as different; should I be worthy of the name of



dialectician if; in order to avoid this difficulty; I were to say



(as you are saying of pleasure) that there is no difference between



one science and another;…would not the argument founder and



disappear like an idle tale; although we might ourselves escape



drowning by clinging to a fallacy?



  Pro。 May none of this befall us; except the deliverance! Yet I



like the even…handed justice which is applied to both our arguments。



Let us assume; then; that there are many and diverse pleasures; and



many and different sciences。



  Soc。 And let us have no concealment; Protarchus; of the



differences between my good and yours; but let us bring them to the



light in the hope that; in the process of testing them; they may



show whether pleasure is to be called the good; or wisdom; or some



third quality; for surely we are not now simply contending in order



that my view or that yours may prevail; but I presume that we ought



both of us to be fighting for the truth。



  Pro。 Certainly we ought。



  Soc。 Then let us have a more definite understanding and establish



the principle on which the argument rests。



  Pro。 What principle?



  Soc。 A principle about which all men are always in a difficulty; and



some men sometimes against their will。



  Pro。 Speak plainer。



  Soc。 The principle which has just turned up; which is a marvel of



nature; for that one should be many or many one; are wonderful



propositions; and he who affirms either is very open to attack。



  Pro。 Do you mean; when a person says that I; Protarchus; am by



nature one and also many; dividing the single 〃me〃 into many 〃mens;〃



and even opposing them as great and small; light and heavy; and in ten



thousand other ways?



  Soc。 Those; Protarchus; are the common and acknowledged paradoxes



about the one and many; which I may say that everybody has by this



time agreed to dismiss as childish and obvious and detrimental to



the true course of thought; and no more favour is shown to that



other puzzle; in which a person proves the members and parts of



anything to be divided; and then confessing that they are all one;



says laughingly in disproof of his own words: Why; here is a



miracle; the one is many and infinite; and the many are only one。



  Pro。 But what; Socrates; are those other marvels connected with this



subject which; as you imply; have not yet become common and



acknowledged?



  Soc。 When; my boy; the one does not belong to the class of things



that are born and perish; as in the instances which we were giving;



for in those cases; and when unity is of this concrete nature; there



is; as I was saying; a universal consent that no refutation is needed;



but when the assertion is made that man is one; or ox is one; or



beauty one; or the good one; then the interest which attaches to these



and similar unities and the attempt which is made to divide them gives



birth to a controversy。



  Pro。 Of what nature?



  Soc。 In the first place; as to whether these unities have a real



existence; and then how each individual unity; being always the



same; and incapable either of generation of destruction; but retaining



a permanent individuality; can be conceived either as dispersed and



multiplied in the infinity of the world of generation; or as still



entire and yet divided from itself; which latter would seem to be



the greatest impossibility of all; for how can one and the same



thing be at the same time in one and in many things? These;



Protarchus; are the real difficulties; and this is the one and many to



which they relate; they are the source of great perplexity if ill



decided; and the right determination of them is very helpful。



  Pro。 Then; Socrates; let us begin by clearing up these questions。



  Soc。 That is what I should wish。



  Pro。 And I am sure that all my other friends will be glad to hear



them discussed; Philebus; fortunately for us; is not disposed to move;



and we had better not stir him up with questions。



  Soc。 Good; and where shall we begin this great and multifarious



battle; in which such various points are at issue? Shall begin thus?



  Pro。 How?



  Soc。 We say that the one and many become identified by thought;



and that now; as in time past; they run about together; in and out



of every word which is uttered; and that this union of them will never



cease; and is not now beginning; but is; as I believe; an



everlasting quality of thought itself; which never grows old。 Any



young man; when he first tastes these subtleties; is delighted; and



fancies that he has found a treasure of wisdom; in the first



enthusiasm of his joy he leaves no stone; or rather no thought



unturned; now rolling up the many into the one; and kneading them



together; now unfolding and dividing them; he puzzles himself first



and above all; and then he proceeds to puzzle his neighbours;



whether they are older or younger; or of his own age…that makes no



difference; neither father nor mother does he spare; no human being



who has ears is safe from him; hardly even his dog; and a barbarian



would have no chance of escaping him; if an interpreter could only



be found。



  Pro。 Considering; Socrates; how many we are; and that all of us



are young men; is there not a danger that we and Philebus may all



set upon you; if you abuse us? We understand what you mean; but is



there no charm by which we may dispel all this confusion; no more



excellent way of arriving at the truth? If there is; we hope that



you will guide us into that way; and we will do our best to follow;



for the enquiry in which we are engaged; Socrates; is not unimportant。



  Soc。 The reverse of unimportant; my boys; as Philebus calls you; and



there neither is nor ever will be a better than my own favourite



way; which has nevertheless already often deserted me and left me



helpless in the hour of need。



  Pro。 Tell us what that is。



  Soc。 One which may be easily pointed out; but is by no means easy of



application; it is the parent of all the discoveries in the arts。



  Pro。 Tell us what it is。



  Soc。 A gift of heaven; which; as I conceive; the gods tossed among



men by the hands of a new Prometheus; and therewith a blaze of



light; and the ancients; who were our betters and nearer the gods than



we are; handed down the tradition; that whatever things are said to be



are composed of one and many; and have the finite; and infinite



implanted in them: seeing; then; that such is the order of the



world; we too ought in every enquiry to begin by laying down one



idea of that which is the subject of enquiry; this unity we shall find



in ever
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