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Pro。 What do you mean?
Soc。 The sciences are a numerous class; and will be found to present
great differences。 But even admitting that; like the pleasures; they
are opposite as well as different; should I be worthy of the name of
dialectician if; in order to avoid this difficulty; I were to say
(as you are saying of pleasure) that there is no difference between
one science and another;…would not the argument founder and
disappear like an idle tale; although we might ourselves escape
drowning by clinging to a fallacy?
Pro。 May none of this befall us; except the deliverance! Yet I
like the even…handed justice which is applied to both our arguments。
Let us assume; then; that there are many and diverse pleasures; and
many and different sciences。
Soc。 And let us have no concealment; Protarchus; of the
differences between my good and yours; but let us bring them to the
light in the hope that; in the process of testing them; they may
show whether pleasure is to be called the good; or wisdom; or some
third quality; for surely we are not now simply contending in order
that my view or that yours may prevail; but I presume that we ought
both of us to be fighting for the truth。
Pro。 Certainly we ought。
Soc。 Then let us have a more definite understanding and establish
the principle on which the argument rests。
Pro。 What principle?
Soc。 A principle about which all men are always in a difficulty; and
some men sometimes against their will。
Pro。 Speak plainer。
Soc。 The principle which has just turned up; which is a marvel of
nature; for that one should be many or many one; are wonderful
propositions; and he who affirms either is very open to attack。
Pro。 Do you mean; when a person says that I; Protarchus; am by
nature one and also many; dividing the single 〃me〃 into many 〃mens;〃
and even opposing them as great and small; light and heavy; and in ten
thousand other ways?
Soc。 Those; Protarchus; are the common and acknowledged paradoxes
about the one and many; which I may say that everybody has by this
time agreed to dismiss as childish and obvious and detrimental to
the true course of thought; and no more favour is shown to that
other puzzle; in which a person proves the members and parts of
anything to be divided; and then confessing that they are all one;
says laughingly in disproof of his own words: Why; here is a
miracle; the one is many and infinite; and the many are only one。
Pro。 But what; Socrates; are those other marvels connected with this
subject which; as you imply; have not yet become common and
acknowledged?
Soc。 When; my boy; the one does not belong to the class of things
that are born and perish; as in the instances which we were giving;
for in those cases; and when unity is of this concrete nature; there
is; as I was saying; a universal consent that no refutation is needed;
but when the assertion is made that man is one; or ox is one; or
beauty one; or the good one; then the interest which attaches to these
and similar unities and the attempt which is made to divide them gives
birth to a controversy。
Pro。 Of what nature?
Soc。 In the first place; as to whether these unities have a real
existence; and then how each individual unity; being always the
same; and incapable either of generation of destruction; but retaining
a permanent individuality; can be conceived either as dispersed and
multiplied in the infinity of the world of generation; or as still
entire and yet divided from itself; which latter would seem to be
the greatest impossibility of all; for how can one and the same
thing be at the same time in one and in many things? These;
Protarchus; are the real difficulties; and this is the one and many to
which they relate; they are the source of great perplexity if ill
decided; and the right determination of them is very helpful。
Pro。 Then; Socrates; let us begin by clearing up these questions。
Soc。 That is what I should wish。
Pro。 And I am sure that all my other friends will be glad to hear
them discussed; Philebus; fortunately for us; is not disposed to move;
and we had better not stir him up with questions。
Soc。 Good; and where shall we begin this great and multifarious
battle; in which such various points are at issue? Shall begin thus?
Pro。 How?
Soc。 We say that the one and many become identified by thought;
and that now; as in time past; they run about together; in and out
of every word which is uttered; and that this union of them will never
cease; and is not now beginning; but is; as I believe; an
everlasting quality of thought itself; which never grows old。 Any
young man; when he first tastes these subtleties; is delighted; and
fancies that he has found a treasure of wisdom; in the first
enthusiasm of his joy he leaves no stone; or rather no thought
unturned; now rolling up the many into the one; and kneading them
together; now unfolding and dividing them; he puzzles himself first
and above all; and then he proceeds to puzzle his neighbours;
whether they are older or younger; or of his own age…that makes no
difference; neither father nor mother does he spare; no human being
who has ears is safe from him; hardly even his dog; and a barbarian
would have no chance of escaping him; if an interpreter could only
be found。
Pro。 Considering; Socrates; how many we are; and that all of us
are young men; is there not a danger that we and Philebus may all
set upon you; if you abuse us? We understand what you mean; but is
there no charm by which we may dispel all this confusion; no more
excellent way of arriving at the truth? If there is; we hope that
you will guide us into that way; and we will do our best to follow;
for the enquiry in which we are engaged; Socrates; is not unimportant。
Soc。 The reverse of unimportant; my boys; as Philebus calls you; and
there neither is nor ever will be a better than my own favourite
way; which has nevertheless already often deserted me and left me
helpless in the hour of need。
Pro。 Tell us what that is。
Soc。 One which may be easily pointed out; but is by no means easy of
application; it is the parent of all the discoveries in the arts。
Pro。 Tell us what it is。
Soc。 A gift of heaven; which; as I conceive; the gods tossed among
men by the hands of a new Prometheus; and therewith a blaze of
light; and the ancients; who were our betters and nearer the gods than
we are; handed down the tradition; that whatever things are said to be
are composed of one and many; and have the finite; and infinite
implanted in them: seeing; then; that such is the order of the
world; we too ought in every enquiry to begin by laying down one
idea of that which is the subject of enquiry; this unity we shall find
in ever