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cratylus-第4章

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rhetoric; the double explanation of the name Hermogenes; either as 'not

being in luck;' or 'being no speaker;' the dearly…bought wisdom of Callias;

the Lacedaemonian whose name was 'Rush;' and; above all; the pleasure which

Socrates expresses in his own dangerous discoveries; which 'to…morrow he

will purge away;' are truly humorous。  While delivering a lecture on the

philosophy of language; Socrates is also satirizing the endless fertility

of the human mind in spinning arguments out of nothing; and employing the

most trifling and fanciful analogies in support of a theory。  Etymology in

ancient as in modern times was a favourite recreation; and Socrates makes

merry at the expense of the etymologists。  The simplicity of Hermogenes;

who is ready to believe anything that he is told; heightens the effect。 

Socrates in his genial and ironical mood hits right and left at his

adversaries:  Ouranos is so called apo tou oran ta ano; which; as some

philosophers say; is the way to have a pure mind; the sophists are by a

fanciful explanation converted into heroes; 'the givers of names were like

some philosophers who fancy that the earth goes round because their heads

are always going round。'  There is a great deal of 'mischief' lurking in

the following:  'I found myself in greater perplexity about justice than I

was before I began to learn;'  'The rho in katoptron must be the addition

of some one who cares nothing about truth; but thinks only of putting the

mouth into shape;'  'Tales and falsehoods have generally to do with the

Tragic and goatish life; and tragedy is the place of them。'  Several


philosophers and sophists are mentioned by name:  first; Protagoras and

Euthydemus are assailed; then the interpreters of Homer; oi palaioi

Omerikoi (compare Arist。 Met。) and the Orphic poets are alluded to by the

way; then he discovers a hive of wisdom in the philosophy of Heracleitus;

the doctrine of the flux is contained in the word ousia (= osia the pushing

principle); an anticipation of Anaxagoras is found in psuche and selene。

Again; he ridicules the arbitrary methods of pulling out and putting in

letters which were in vogue among the philologers of his time; or slightly

scoffs at contemporary religious beliefs。  Lastly; he is impatient of

hearing from the half…converted Cratylus the doctrine that falsehood can

neither be spoken; nor uttered; nor addressed; a piece of sophistry

attributed to Gorgias; which reappears in the Sophist。  And he proceeds to

demolish; with no less delight than he had set up; the Heracleitean theory

of language。



In the latter part of the dialogue Socrates becomes more serious; though he

does not lay aside but rather aggravates his banter of the Heracleiteans;

whom here; as in the Theaetetus; he delights to ridicule。  What was the

origin of this enmity we can hardly determine:was it due to the natural

dislike which may be supposed to exist between the 'patrons of the flux'

and the 'friends of the ideas' (Soph。)? or is it to be attributed to the

indignation which Plato felt at having wasted his time upon 'Cratylus and

the doctrines of Heracleitus' in the days of his youth?  Socrates; touching

on some of the characteristic difficulties of early Greek philosophy;

endeavours to show Cratylus that imitation may be partial or imperfect;

that a knowledge of things is higher than a knowledge of names; and that

there can be no knowledge if all things are in a state of transition。  But

Cratylus; who does not easily apprehend the argument from common sense;

remains unconvinced; and on the whole inclines to his former opinion。  Some

profound philosophical remarks are scattered up and down; admitting of an

application not only to language but to knowledge generally; such as the

assertion that 'consistency is no test of truth:' or again; 'If we are

over…precise about words; truth will say 〃too late〃 to us as to the belated

traveller in Aegina。'



The place of the dialogue in the series cannot be determined with

certainty。  The style and subject; and the treatment of the character of

Socrates; have a close resemblance to the earlier dialogues; especially to

the Phaedrus and Euthydemus。  The manner in which the ideas are spoken of

at the end of the dialogue; also indicates a comparatively early date。  The

imaginative element is still in full vigour; the Socrates of the Cratylus

is the Socrates of the Apology and Symposium; not yet Platonized; and he

describes; as in the Theaetetus; the philosophy of Heracleitus by

'unsavoury' simileshe cannot believe that the world is like 'a leaky

vessel;' or 'a man who has a running at the nose'; he attributes the flux

of the world to the swimming in some folks' heads。  On the other hand; the

relation of thought to language is omitted here; but is treated of in the

Sophist。  These grounds are not sufficient to enable us to arrive at a

precise conclusion。  But we shall not be far wrong in placing the Cratylus

about the middle; or at any rate in the first half; of the series。



Cratylus; the Heracleitean philosopher; and Hermogenes; the brother of

Callias; have been arguing about names; the former maintaining that they

are natural; the latter that they are conventional。  Cratylus affirms that

his own is a true name; but will not allow that the name of Hermogenes is

equally true。  Hermogenes asks Socrates to explain to him what Cratylus

means; or; far rather; he would like to know; What Socrates himself thinks

about the truth or correctness of names?  Socrates replies; that hard is

knowledge; and the nature of names is a considerable part of knowledge:  he

has never been to hear the fifty…drachma course of Prodicus; and having

only attended the single…drachma course; he is not competent to give an

opinion on such matters。  When Cratylus denies that Hermogenes is a true

name; he supposes him to mean that he is not a true son of Hermes; because

he is never in luck。  But he would like to have an open council and to hear

both sides。



Hermogenes is of opinion that there is no principle in names; they may be

changed; as we change the names of slaves; whenever we please; and the

altered name is as good as the original one。



You mean to say; for instance; rejoins Socrates; that if I agree to call a

man a horse; then a man will be rightly called a horse by me; and a man by

the rest of the world?  But; surely; there is in words a true and a false;

as there are true and false propositions。  If a whole proposition be true

or false; then the parts of a proposition may be true or false; and the

least parts as well as the greatest; and the least parts are names; and

therefore names may be true or false。  Would Hermogenes maintain that

anybody may give a name to anything; and as many names as he pleases; and

would all these names be always true at the time of giving them? 

Hermogenes replies that this is the only way in which he can conceive that

names are correct; and he appeals to the practice of different nations; 
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