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phaedrus-第17章

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and if simple; then to enquire what power it has of acting or being



acted upon in relation to other things; and if multiform; then to



number the forms; and see first in the case of one of them; and then



in。 case of all of them; what is that power of acting or being acted



upon which makes each and all of them to be what they are?



  Phaedr。 You may very likely be right; Socrates。



  Soc。 The method which proceeds without analysis is like the



groping of a blind man。 Yet; surely; he who is an artist ought not



to admit of a comparison with the blind; or deaf。 The rhetorician; who



teaches his pupil to speak scientifically; will particularly set forth



the nature of that being to which he addresses his speeches; and this;



I conceive; to be the soul。



  Phaedr。 Certainly。



  Soc。 His whole effort is directed to the soul; for in that he



seeks to produce conviction。



  Phaedr。 Yes。



  Soc。 Then clearly; Thrasymachus or any one else who teaches rhetoric



in earnest will give an exact description of the nature of the soul;



which will enable us to see whether she be single and same; or; like



the body; multiform。 That is what we should call showing the nature of



the soul。



  Phaedr。 Exactly。



  Soc。 He will explain; secondly; the mode in which she acts or is



acted upon。



  Phaedr。 True。



  Soc。 Thirdly; having classified men and speeches; and their kinds



and affections; and adapted them to one another; he will tell the



reasons of his arrangement; and show why one soul is persuaded by a



particular form of argument; and another not。



  Phaedr。 You have hit upon a very good way。



  Soc。 Yes; that is the true and only way in which any subject can



be set forth or treated by rules of art; whether in speaking or



writing。 But the writers of the present day; at whose feet you have



sat; craftily; conceal the nature of the soul which they know quite



well。 Nor; until they adopt our method of reading and writing; can



we admit that they write by rules of art?



  Phaedr。 What is our method?



  Soc。 I cannot give you the exact details; but I should like to



tell you generally; as far as is in my power; how a man ought to



proceed according to rules of art。



  Phaedr。 Let me hear。



  Soc。 Oratory is the art of enchanting the soul; and therefore he who



would be an orator has to learn the differences of human souls…they



are so many and of such a nature; and from them come the differences



between man and man。 Having proceeded thus far in his analysis; he



will next divide speeches into their different classes:…〃Such and such



persons;〃 he will say; are affected by this or that kind of speech



in this or that way;〃 and he will tell you why。 The pupil must have



a good theoretical notion of them first; and then he must have



experience of them in actual life; and be able to follow them with all



his senses about him; or he will never get beyond the precepts of



his masters。 But when he understands what persons are persuaded by



what arguments; and sees the person about whom he was speaking in



the abstract actually before him; and knows that it is he; and can say



to himself; 〃This is the man or this is the character who ought to



have a certain argument applied to him in order to convince him of a



certain opinion〃; …he who knows all this; and knows also when he



should speak and when he should refrain; and when he should use



pithy sayings; pathetic appeals; sensational effects; and all the



other modes of speech which he has learned;…when; I say; he knows



the times and seasons of all these things; then; and not till then; he



is a perfect master of his art; but if he fail in any of these points;



whether in speaking or teaching or writing them; and yet declares that



he speaks by rules of art; he who says 〃I don't believe you〃 has the



better of him。 Well; the teacher will say; is this; and Socrates; your



account of the so…called art of rhetoric; or am I to look for another?



  Phaedr。 He must take this; Socrates for there is no possibility of



another; and yet the creation of such an art is not easy。



  Soc。 Very true; and therefore let us consider this matter in every



light; and see whether we cannot find a shorter and easier road; there



is no use in taking a long rough round…about way if there be a shorter



and easier one。 And I wish that you would try and remember whether you



have heard from Lysias or any one else anything which might be of



service to us。



  Phaedr。 If trying would avail; then I might; but at the moment I can



think of nothing。



  Soc。 Suppose I tell you something which somebody who knows told me。



  Phaedr。 Certainly。



  Soc。 May not 〃the wolf;〃 as the proverb says; claim a hearing〃?



  Phaedr。 Do you say what can be said for him。



  Soc。 He will argue that is no use in putting a solemn face on



these matters; or in going round and round; until you arrive at



first principles; for; as I said at first; when the question is of



justice and good; or is a question in which men are concerned who



are just and good; either by nature or habit; he who would be a



skilful rhetorician has; no need of truth…for that in courts of law



men literally care nothing about truth; but only about conviction: and



this is based on probability; to which who would be a skilful orator



should therefore give his whole attention。 And they say also that



there are cases in which the actual facts; if they are improbable;



ought to be withheld; and only the probabilities should be told either



in accusation or defence; and that always in speaking; the orator



should keep probability in view; and say good…bye to the truth。 And



the observance; of this principle throughout a speech furnishes the



whole art。



  Phaedr。 That is what the professors of rhetoric do actually say;



Socrates。 I have not forgotten that we have quite briefly touched upon



this matter already; with them the point is all…important。



  Soc。 I dare say that you are familiar with Tisias。 Does he not



define probability to be that which the many think?



  Phaedr。 Certainly; he does。



  Soc。 I believe that he has a clever and ingenious case of this



sort:…He supposes a feeble and valiant man to have assaulted a



strong and cowardly one; and to have robbed him of his coat or of



something or other; he is brought into court; and then Tisias says



that both parties should tell lies: the coward should say that he



was assaulted by more men than one; the other should prove that they



were alone; and should argue thus: 〃How could a weak man like me



have assaulted a strong man like him?〃 The complainant will not like



to confess his 
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