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  Death; he answered。



  And these; then; are generated; if they are opposites; the one



from the other; and have there their two intermediate processes also?



  Of course。



  Now; said Socrates; I will analyze one of the two pairs of opposites



which I have mentioned to you; and also its intermediate processes;



and you shall analyze the other to me。 The state of sleep is opposed



to the state of waking; and out of sleeping waking is generated; and



out of waking; sleeping; and the process of generation is in the one



case falling asleep; and in the other waking up。 Are you agreed



about that?



  Quite agreed。



  Then suppose that you analyze life and death to me in the same



manner。 Is not death opposed to life?



  Yes。



  And they are generated one from the other?



  Yes。



  What is generated from life?



  Death。



  And what from death?



  I can only say in answer…life。



  Then the living; whether things or persons; Cebes; are generated



from the dead?



  That is clear; he replied。



  Then the inference is; that our souls are in the world below?



  That is true。



  And one of the two processes or generations is visible…for surely



the act of dying is visible?



  Surely; he said。



  And may not the other be inferred as the complement of nature; who



is not to be supposed to go on one leg only? And if not; a



corresponding process of generation in death must also be assigned



to her?



  Certainly; he replied。



  And what is that process?



  Revival。



  And revival; if there be such a thing; is the birth of the dead into



the world of the living?



  Quite true。



  Then there is a new way in which we arrive at the inference that the



living come from the dead; just as the dead come from the living;



and if this is true; then the souls of the dead must be in some



place out of which they come again。 And this; as I think; has been



satisfactorily proved。



  Yes; Socrates; he said; all this seems to flow necessarily out of



our previous admissions。



  And that these admissions are not unfair; Cebes; he said; may be



shown; as I think; in this way: If generation were in a straight



line only; and there were no compensation or circle in nature; no turn



or return into one another; then you know that all things would at



last have the same form and pass into the same state; and there



would be no more generation of them。



  What do you mean? he said。



  A simple thing enough; which I will illustrate by the case of sleep;



he replied。 You know that if there were no compensation of sleeping



and waking; the story of the sleeping Endymion would in the end have



no meaning; because all other things would be asleep; too; and he



would not be thought of。 Or if there were composition only; and no



division of substances; then the chaos of Anaxagoras would come again。



And in like manner; my dear Cebes; if all things which partook of life



were to die; and after they were dead remained in the form of death;



and did not come to life again; all would at last die; and nothing



would be alive…how could this be otherwise? For if the living spring



from any others who are not the dead; and they die; must not all



things at last be swallowed up in death?



  There is no escape from that; Socrates; said Cebes; and I think that



what you say is entirely true。



  Yes; he said; Cebes; I entirely think so; too; and we are not



walking in a vain imagination; but I am confident in the belief that



there truly is such a thing as living again; and that the living



spring from the dead; and that the souls of the dead are in existence;



and that the good souls have a better portion than the evil。



  Cebes added: Your favorite doctrine; Socrates; that knowledge is



simply recollection; if true; also necessarily implies a previous time



in which we learned that which we now recollect。 But this would be



impossible unless our soul was in some place before existing in the



human form; here; then; is another argument of the soul's immortality。



  But tell me; Cebes; said Simmias; interposing; what proofs are given



of this doctrine of recollection? I am not very sure at this moment



that I remember them。



  One excellent proof; said Cebes; is afforded by questions。 If you



put a question to a person in a right way; he will give a true



answer of himself; but how could he do this unless there were



knowledge and right reason already in him? And this is most clearly



shown when he is taken to a diagram or to anything of that sort。



  But if; said Socrates; you are still incredulous; Simmias; I would



ask you whether you may not agree with me when you look at the



matter in another way; I mean; if you are still incredulous as to



whether knowledge is recollection。



  Incredulous; I am not; said Simmias; but I want to have this



doctrine of recollection brought to my own recollection; and; from



what Cebes has said; I am beginning to recollect and be convinced; but



I should still like to hear what more you have to say。



  This is what I would say; he replied: We should agree; if I am not



mistaken; that what a man recollects he must have known at some



previous time。



  Very true。



  And what is the nature of this recollection? And; in asking this;



I mean to ask whether; when a person has already seen or heard or in



any way perceived anything; and he knows not only that; but



something else of which he has not the same; but another knowledge; we



may not fairly say that he recollects that which comes into his



mind。 Are we agreed about that?



  What do you mean?



  I mean what I may illustrate by the following instance: The



knowledge of a lyre is not the same as the knowledge of a man?



  True。



  And yet what is the feeling of lovers when they recognize a lyre; or



a garment; or anything else which the beloved has been in the habit of



using? Do not they; from knowing the lyre; form in the mind's eye an



image of the youth to whom the lyre belongs? And this is recollection:



and in the same way anyone who sees Simmias may remember Cebes; and



there are endless other things of the same nature。



  Yes; indeed; there are…endless; replied Simmias。



  And this sort of thing; he said; is recollection; and is most



commonly a process of recovering that which has been forgotten through



time and inattention。



  Very true; he said。



  Well; and may you not also from seeing the picture of a horse or a



lyre remember a man? and from the picture of Simmias; you may be led



to remember Cebes?



  True。



  Or you may also be led to the recollection of Simmias himself?



  True; he said。



  And in all these cases; the recollection may be derived from



things either like or unlike?



  That is true。



  And when the recollection is derived from like things; then there is



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