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〃other〃? Are they two new kinds other than the three; and yet always
of necessity intermingling with them; and are we to have five kinds
instead of three; or when we speak of the same and other; are we
unconsciously speaking of one of the three first kinds?
Theaet。 Very likely we are。
Str。 But; surely; motion and rest are neither the other nor the
same。
Theaet。 How is that?
Str。 Whatever we attribute to motion and rest in common; cannot be
either of them。
Theaet。 Why not?
Str。 Because motion would be at rest and rest in motion; for
either of them; being predicated of both; will compel the other to
change into the opposite of its own nature; because partaking of its
opposite。
Theaet。 Quite true。
Str。 Yet they surely both partake of the same and of the other?
Theaet。 Yes。
Str。 Then we must not assert that motion; any more than rest; is
either the same or the other。
Theaet。 No; we must not。
Str。 But are we to conceive that being and the same are identical?
Theaet。 Possibly。
Str。 But if they are identical; then again in saying that
motion and
rest have being; we should also be saying that they are the same。
Theaet。 Which surely cannot be。
Str。 Then being and same cannot be one。
Theaet。 Scarcely。
Str。 Then we may suppose the same to be a fourth class;
which is now
to be added to the three others。
Theaet。 Quite true。
Str。 And shall we call the other a fifth class? Or should we
consider being and other to be two names of the same class?
Theaet。 Very likely。
Str。 But you would agree; if I am not mistaken; that existences
are relative as well as absolute?
Theaet。 Certainly。
Str。 And the other is always relative to other?
Theaet。 True。
Str。 But this would not be the case unless being and the other
entirely differed; for; if the other; like being; were absolute as
well as relative; then there would have been a kind of other
which was
not other than other。 And now we find that what is other must of
necessity be what it is in relation to some other。
Theaet。 That is the true state of the case。
Str。 Then we must admit the other as the fifth of our selected
classes。
Theaet。 Yes。
Str。 And the fifth class pervades all classes; for they all differ
from one another; not by reason of their own nature; but because
they partake of the idea of the other。
Theaet。 Quite true。
Str。 Then let us now put the case with reference to each of the
five。
Theaet。 How?
Str。 First there is motion; which we affirm to be
absolutely 〃other〃
than rest: what else can we say?
Theaet。 It is so。
Str。 And therefore is not rest。
Theaet。 Certainly not。
Str。 And yet is; because partaking of being。
Theaet。 True。
Str。 Again; motion is other than the same?
Theaet。 Just so。
Str。 And is therefore not the same。
Theaet。 It is not。
Str。 Yet; surely; motion is the same; because all things partake
of the same。
Theaet。 Very true。
Str。 Then we must admit; and not object to say; that motion is the
same and is not the same; for we do not apply the terms 〃same〃 and
〃not the same;〃 in the same sense; but we call it the 〃same;〃 in
relation to itself; because partaking of the same; and not the same;
because having communion with the other; it is thereby severed from
the same; and has become not that but other; and is therefore
rightly spoken of as 〃not the same。〃
Theaet。 To be sure。
Str。 And if absolute motion in any point of view partook of rest;
there would be no absurdity in calling motion stationary。
Theaet。 Quite right; …that is; on the supposition that some
classes mingle with one another; and others not。
Str。 That such a communion of kinds is according to nature; we had
already proved before we arrived at this part of our discussion。
Theaet。 Certainly。
Str。 Let us proceed; then。 we not say that motion is other than
the other; having been also proved by us to be other than
the same and
other than rest?
Theaet。 That is certain。
Str。 Then; according to this view; motion is other and also not
other?
Theaet。 True。
Str。 What is the next step? Shall we say that motion is other than
the three and not other than the fourth…for we agreed that there are
five classes about and in the sphere of which we proposed to make
enquiry?
Theaet。 Surely we cannot admit that the number is less than it
appeared to be just now。
Str。 Then we may without fear contend that motion is other than
being?
Theaet。 Without the least fear。
Str。 The plain result is that motion; since it partakes of being;
really is and also is not?
Theaet。 Nothing can be plainer。
Str。 Then not…being necessarily exists in the case of motion and
of every class; for the nature of the other entering into them all;
makes each of them other than being; and so non…existent; and
therefore of all of them; in like manner; we may truly say that they
are not…and again; inasmuch as they partake of being; that they are
and are existent。
Theaet。 So we may assume。
Str。 Every class; then; has plurality of being and infinity of
not…being。
Theaet。 So we must infer。
Str。 And being itself may be said to be other than the other kinds。
Theaet。 Certainly。
Str。 Then we may infer that being is not; in respect of as many
other things as there are; for not…being these it is itself one; and
is: not the other things; which are infinite in number。
Theaet。 That is not far from the truth。
Str。 And we must not quarrel with this result; since it is of the
nature of classes to have communion with one another; and if any one
denies our present statement 'viz。; that being is not; etc。'; let
him first argue with our former conclusion 'i。e。; respecting the
communion of ideas'; and then he may proceed to argue with what
follows。
Theaet。 Nothing can be fairer。
Str。 Let me ask you to consider a further question。
Theaet。 What question?
Str。 When we speak of not…being; we speak; I suppose; not of
something opposed to being; but only different。
Theaet。 What do you mean?
Str。 When we speak of something as not great; does the expression
seem to you to imply what is little any more than what is equal?
Theaet。 Certainly not。
Str。 The negative particles; ou and me; when prefixed to words; do
not imply opposition; but only difference from the words; or more
correctly from the things represented by the words; which
follow them。
Theaet。 Quite true。
Str。 There is another point to be considered; if you do not object。
Theaet。 What is it?
Str。 The nature of the other appears to me to be divided into
fractions like knowledge。
Theaet。 How so?
Str。 Knowledge; like the other; is one; and yet the
various parts of
knowledge have each of them their own particular name; and
hence there
are many arts and kinds of knowledge。
Theaet。 Quite true。
Str。 And is not the case the same with the parts of the
other; which
is also one?
Theaet。 Very likely; but will you tell me how?
Str。 There is some part of the other which is op